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Costa Mesa declares itself a 'rule of law' community

Seeded on Thu May 20, 2010 3:50 AM EDT
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The Costa Mesa City Council has voted unanimously to declare itself a "rule of law" community, further widening the divide over illegal immigration in the central Orange County city.

This week's resolution follows an April news conference in which Mayor Allan Mansoor called for stricter regulations to catch illegal immigrants living, working and driving in the city.

Costa Mesa has sought for several years to reduce the number of illegal immigrants within its borders by regulating day laborers, asking police to check the immigration status of people they stop and limiting the number of soccer fields in parks.

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PivotalAxis. Al right, then. I disagree with harassing people, asking for "their papers" and rounding up deserate people who only wish for work and a chance at a better life. The few bad apples in the barrel (criminals) spoil it for those with high hopes for a better tomorrow. These kind of bans punish innocent people who only want to work hard and perhaps live to see the age of 70.

    Reply#1 - Thu May 20, 2010 6:01 AM EDT
    PivotalAxis

    I agree with you for the most part, and would like to see laws on illegal immigration written to target, the bad apples. There is also the underlying truth that for the USA the immigration quotas are set too low.

    Two things however,

    one, while I agree with allowing for an undocumented worker to pursue the American Dream thru hard work. I also believe, those who represent them should not call for economic sanctions against the very country or portions of the country they are currently living illegally in. Sort of like a criminal calling for the boycott against the person/business they victimized.

    two, we need a better system to allow for these workers to come into this country legally, it does not make sense to punish them or the businesses that hire them. We need to revitalize large segments of our economy, we also need to deregulate parts of the process allowing for small businesses to flourish in this country again. What I recognize in these undocumented workers is a willingness to take the risks needed to succeed. However we are also legally slowly choking their ability (once documented) to revitalize this country's business sector.

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    #1.1 - Thu May 20, 2010 2:45 PM EDT
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    V. Bevis

    G'Evening!

    While I agree with both of you & your arguements, I'd like to say that I think we ALL know that the new Arizona Law concerning stopping "questionable" people concerning their legality, is, as I see it, NOT to harrass illegals JUST for being here. Unless the cop is a bad apple himself, the vast majority will use it as a way to increase getting the gangs of druggies that have made, according to some people I know down there, almost a state of anarchy. ANYTHING THAT CAN HELP STEM THE TIDE OF THIS ABUSE OF OUR HOSPITALLITY IS ALLOWABLE IN MY BOOK. And believe me, if there IS abuses of power from law enforcement, it will get dealt with very expediently.

    But the Mexican Pres. along with ours "mumbling" something about how deplorable "targeting" Mexican people, along with Mexicans flying OUR flag up-side-down, burning it & carrying around the Mexican Flag does NOTHING for their cause.

    I have a friend from H.S. who lives just outside the District ( college teacher ) & is as far left as one can get. She truly surprised me by agreeing completely with supporting the law. Knocked me down with a feather. If SHE is for the Az. Law, then I believe the news reporting that up to 85% of the U.S. supports it also.

    Just some quiet thoughts.......................!

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    Reply#2 - Thu May 20, 2010 8:15 PM EDT
    PivotalAxis

    Oh I absolutely agree the Mexican President has no say so what so ever, and Obama allowing this platform is deplorable. I find it amusing that just last week they were calling Palin a liar, and less then a week later Calderon comes out and say Ban Assault Weapons.

    I also find it deplorable when i hear boycotts or hear about American citizens stating the Mexican flag needs to be respected at the mercy of the American flag. This wrong on so many levels it falls outside the scope of a civil reaction. Jefferson shot a man on the White House lawn for treason...

    And the PEW research people found that the American people are for the Law in Arizona, and they usually are on the side of knocking laws like this one down. So it is not from lack of trying to make it sound as unpopular as possible. They just could not do it in this instance.

    BTW, LA Raza, the ACLU, and the US Attorney General Holder are not bring up a lawsuit, because they know it is constitutional. They lost a case back in 2002 telling them that the SCOTUS would support a law like this one. Specifically why they are fighting back with protests and boycotts versus trying to take it to court, where they know they would lose.

    Lawsuits from cities in Arizona are coming from sanctuary cities, and therefore they do have a vested interested in trying to overthrow this law because their policies would get them sued under this law.

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    Reply#3 - Fri May 21, 2010 12:27 AM EDT
    lvh-784809

    "Lawsuits from cities in Arizona are coming from sanctuary cities" Thanks P for that extra information. I have been very curious about sanctuary cities and their existance.

      Reply#4 - Sat May 22, 2010 5:28 PM EDT
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